Hitler but a Foretaste of the Coming Beast Tyranny

The following essay was written in response to J.J. Dewey's post 759, "Antichrist"

Sterling, this was a very powerful response and overview of where we stand.  I congratulate you for your cogent insights.

-- Joel Skousen http://www.joelskousen.com

From: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>

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Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 12:38 PM

Subject: Hitler but a Foreshadowing of the Coming Beast Tyranny

The more we get into this thing with J.J. saying Hitler was the fulfillment of the prophesied anti-Christ and saying that another is not coming for he has already come, the more I realize that herein lies a humongous difference between where J.J. is coming from and what I believe through painstaking research, experience, and following God's direction in my life's path.

One of the primary reasons I was excommunicated from the LDS Church (and why I remain outside) was for my outspoken stance in saying that the LDS leaders were playing into the hands of the New World Order conspiracy rather than standing in courageous opposition to it as is their obligation as watchmen on the tower and being called to be a light to the world. You can imagine the effect it is having on me as I start realizing that J.J. seems to take the same stance as the LDS leadership on this point.

Back in the 1890's when Utah was trying to become a State in the Union, one of the conditions for their entry was to drop all talk about building up the kingdom of God in a literal government sense. Prior to that time, a fundamental part of Mormon culture was the belief that they were building the kingdom/government of God prophesied by Daniel that would fill the whole earth. The state of Deseret with Brigham Young as governor included all of what is now Utah, Nevada, most of Arizona, half of Idaho, half of Colorado, and much of California (reciting from memory here, which might be off a little). Still today you can go to these areas and see that many of the towns were founded by Mormon settlers in this quest for the kingdom of God.

The Saints at that time earnestly believed that the Second Coming was coming very soon -- in a few years if not months. The persecutions they endured at the hands of neighbors fearful of their growing power, and even at the hands of the U.S. government, felt very much to them like the chastisements prophesied to be heaped upon the people of God.

But as time went on, and the persecutions only increased, with no seeming miraculous intervention from God that they expected, their spirits began to be broken, and little by little they started giving in to the demands being placed upon them such as that they give up polygamy and their quest for the kingdom/government of God.

Since that time, that quest for a literal government has been all but forgotten. The Mormons said Uncle to Uncle Sam and are now proud to say that a good Mormon will sustain the government under which he lives -- no matter what that government is. That is why the Church is gaining favor in nations like Russia and China. The official stance of the Church is one of strict political neutrality. They encourage their members to be involved in the political process, but they do not give guidance as to what the proper role of government is, and the tendency is toward lethargy because of the lack of discussion over the pulpit. In fact many patriots end up getting persecuted by church leadership because they are perceived as being out of harmony with the current general authorities who do not express any concerns about a global conspiracy. I personally know of hundreds of such cases. One must dig into old LDS general conference talks from the 50's, 60's, and 70's to get any kind of understanding of what "modern prophets" have to say on the subjects of the threats to freedom posed by socialism, communism, and a secret combination or global conspiracy to establish these forms of government as the standard.

In these talks and the books recommended in the talks you will read about how Hitler was financed in part by the wealth-controlling families like the Rockefellers, and was but a pawn in moving the world closer to a global dictatorship. One of the great victories on their side coming out of the war was the Herculean financial support they were able to glean for the communist revolution because the Soviet Union had fought the war on the side of the "Allies." The Soviet Union was built in large measure with Western money and supplies.

Another victory they were able to achieve was the establishment of the very red United Nations, spring boarding off the fear engendered by the Second World War. Indeed, the struggle between Communism and the Western free world was another tool used by this coterie of conspirators to impose a large number of global alliances with a strong socialist bend.

In post 99, J.J. talks at greater length about the rise of Communism and the U.N. and says essentially the same things as I have above, so in that part we are in agreement.

http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives/JJ99.html

Let me pause here and make a point about "democracy." What the founding fathers established in America was not a democracy. It was a constitutional republic. A democracy is majority rule -- one of the forms of government that the Constitution was designed to protect the people from, for it tends to trample upon the rights of the minority, whereas a constitutional republic combines the elements of majority desire with the elements of the restraint of just laws to protect the minority.

One of the ten planks in the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx is "the establishment of democracy." If you can get the people to vote a communist into power, or at least get them to think they voted the communist/socialist into power, then they are all the more easy to subject to the power of the state. Democracy does not mean freedom. It means majority rule. World democracy is completely compatible with world socialism. That is why liberals are so giddy to use this word which in the minds of the average public is associated with thoughts of freedom. It is a huge, masterful deception.

On this point, J.J. tends to use the word "democracy" in a way that plays into the above deception, though he uses it as if it is synonymous with freedom.

One of the greatest deceptions that the global conspirators have pulled off is the notion that "communism is dead," that it failed, that "democracy" has proven superior. The fall of the Berlin Wall, the dissolution of the Soviet Union, are seen as the crumbling of communism.

In reality, these moves were engineered and planned years prior to their happening by the Soviet masters of deceit. Their purpose was to lull the West into even more complacency in preparation for the final victory of Communism. In the vernacular of Sun Tzu regarding the strategy of war, "When weak, feign strength. When strong feign weak. When ready to attack feign retreat."

I have in my possession a document written by one of the highest ranking KGB agents to ever defect to the West, Antonolyi (sp?) Golitzen. It is called, "New Lies for Old." It's copyright date is 1985. In it he says that the Soviets planned to disarm the west by feigning disunion and chaos. He even mentioned the possibility of the Berlin Wall coming down and the so-called "liberation" of the Eastern block nations, who would really only change one communist for another "former" communist.

Their tactics have worked probably even better than they imagined. The West has become very complacent about the possibility of a viable threat coming from the Soviets. There has been a massive downsizing of U.S. defense strength under Clinton. History will tell that he was perhaps the greatest traitor to the Constitutional Republic that this nation ever produced.

Ironically, with the lie that "communism is dead" so firmly embedded in the minds of the American people, Clinton and his cronies have been able to get away with massive transfers of aid, technology, nuclear know-how and equipment, and necessary computer capability to the Chinese, even though they still proudly consider themselves a communist nation. Communism is dead, so what's the worry?

Sometimes I am so astonished at the blindness of the American people. I have to wonder if the conspirators who are pulling all this off are not just laughing themselves silly at how gullible people are.

Included in the number who have been tricked is J.J. Dewey. In post 50, for example he said, "When The Soviet Union collapsed and the Berlin Wall fell the power of the beast (unquestioned authority) was greatly diminished." He makes a similar statement in post 99 mentioned above.

See that is the way ol' slick works. One step backward, two steps forward. He takes one step backward giving the allusion of weakness and retreat so that the enemy gets of its guard, relaxes at ease, then the aggressor takes two steps forward, recovering the ground he had previously as well as gaining more until the enemy rallies sufficient to put the advance in check. Then one step backward again, followed by two more steps forward.

Each time this cycle plays itself out there are effervescent overtures of peace, treaties, concessions. Each time freedom slips a notch and the enemy advances for he has no intention of keeping any of the treaties. He never has except maybe temporarily as it might serve some immediate purpose. Hence the prophecy not just in Daniel but repeated several times by several other prophets that they cry "peace, peace when there is no peace." (Jer. 6:14; 8:11; Dan. 8:25)

Isolating only the Daniel 8:25 prophecy and claiming it is a mistranslation, J.J. says, "one cannot destroy with peace." That is a lie. Words can be used very deceptively. One might speak of love and peace, when in truth they are an agent of Satan.

The Book of Mormon says it most clearly when it states in 2 Nephi 28:

"21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is well--and thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to hell.
22 And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none--and thus he whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from whence there is no deliverance.
23 Yea, they are grasped with death, and hell; and death, and hell, and the devil, and all that have been seized therewith must stand before the throne of God, and be judged according to their works, from whence they must go into the place prepared for them, even a lake of fire and brimstone, which is endless torment.
24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!"

"I am no devil for there is none." 

Communism is dead. 

Same lie.

By getting people to believe that there is no enemy, no threat, no conspiracy, no communism, Satan is able to get them cornered sufficiently that he is able to take a final victory of complete captivity.

That is why it is so ironic that J.J. who is such a strong proponent of freedom and agency would be playing so well into the hands of Satan toward the end of his being able to obtain global tyranny.

The prophecies speak of a world-wide tyranny, a dictatorship over the entire planet. In Isaiah 10, for example, the victorious tyrant boasts, "By the strength of my hand have I done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent; and I have removed the bounds [national boundaries] of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man: and my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped." (10:13,14.)

The Lord then explains that no, it was not the tyrant who was able to do this, but God who let him do it, serving to chasten his wayward people who refused to establish his government but built up instead the government of the enemy. The prophecy then states that this victory will only be temporary, and then God will save a remnant miraculously.

I have written about this whole scenario at great length on my web site, especially in the book "The Vision of All."

http://www.greaterthings.com/Books/Vision

Hitler was only able to subject a portion, never everything. He was only but a step forward in Satan's plan, not the final and complete subjugation prophesied.

What is coming is an entire subjugation of the planet so that the "Lord's people" will come into captivity because they failed to heed the warnings and be alert and stand in opposition to the rise of this secret combination until it got above them.

Those who were supposed to establish a government of God and oppose Satan's kingdom are the most to blame for this temporary victory that Satan is going to have. By that I mean the Christians in general but the Mormons more specifically, for they had the most light and could have made the biggest difference but didn't. They are as salt that has lost its savor and is thence forth good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under feet of the house of Israel (namely the invading forces prior to their conversion after all is said and done -- like the Lamanites treading down the Nephites in the Book of Mormon, later becoming even more righteous than the Nephites).

The Bible is chuck full of admonitions about freedom and warnings about the rise of this beast. The Book of Mormon is even more plain and adamant about the point. The Christians should know better. The Mormons should know even better than that.

Today, in Mormon vernacular, frequent mention of "the kingdom" is synonymous with the church or gospel and has nothing to do with government, even though etymologically the word "kingdom" implies a society with laws and such, peaceful or otherwise. They have so bought into the policy of political neutrality that instead of standing for freedom, they persecute those few who awaken and begin to sound the voice of warning.

In J.J.'s paradigm, the Jews were the "holy people" who the beast, Hitler, gains temporary victory over.

In truth, it is the Christians in general and Mormons in particular who are going to be persecuted in great fury by this coming captivity. Under the martial law oppression that is coming, they are going to find themselves in concentration camps, being tortured, being overrun by foreign troops.

This nation is going to be trodden under feet. And the Christians and especially the Mormons are going to be the primary target.

I give tons of verification for this on my website, through direct scriptural prophecy, through chiasms and parallels, through alphabetics word studies, through visions, through documentation of current events.

J.J. is dead wrong about this. Very, very wrong. Fatally wrong. You must not believe him on this or you will be toast. His line only strengthens the deceptions of the enemy to get the holy people off guard and unprepared for the attack they have in their heart to accomplish against the people of God.

A theme of the scriptures is that the first shall be last, and the last shall be first.

The Jews were the first, ordained of God to be his holy people. They blew it, and the kingdom was taken to the Gentiles.

Now in these last days, the Gentiles have been first through the restoration of the gospel by the instrumentality of Joseph Smith. They have been commissioned of God to be his husbandmen. They are blowing it, which will become most apparent in days shortly ahead. And the kingdom is going to be taken from them and given back to the house of Israel.

As there was a remnant among the Jews at the time of Jesus Christ who became part of the new kingdom, coming out of the old, so also will there be a hearts core remnant from Christianity/Mormonism who will become a part of the new kingdom among Israel.

The government of God will be established on earth, no more to be thrown down. Satan will have no more power over the hearts of the people.

Because of Christ's coming to the Jews who rejected him, people are empowered with a mighty change of heart on an individual level. Through the second advent of Messiah this time to the Mormons/Christians, who reject that ministry, there will be a collective empowerment on a societal level.

Zion will consist of changed individuals who compose a changed society. Freedom will reign supreme. Peace will abound.

Peace will not come about because of disarmament first. Satan is the one who tries to work from the outside in -- by force. In God's plan, the hearts change first, voluntarily, then peace follows.

And one of the reasons the hearts change is because man is able to see with great clarity the folly of his ways and he chooses finally to turn his heart to God and rely no more on the arm of flesh and its carnality which leads to destruction as they have so vividly witnessed.

J.J. is wrong when he says in number 11 of his 12 planks for the coming New Age:
"11. We promote World Peace through the complete elimination of nuclear and doomsday weapons, international aggression, and the eradication of world hunger and poverty."
http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives/JJ555.html

As another proof that Hitler was not the primary anti-Christ prophesied and that the Jews were not the primary "holy people" prophesied, I would cite the very strong correlation between D&C 101, 103, III Nephi 16, 20, 21, and Daniel 7 and Revelations 13. These prophecies all use identical phrases in describing this unfolding scenario. And the D&C 101 and 103 prophecies make it very clear that it is the Mormons who will be the primary ones who are trampled under feet, having become as salt that has lost its savor. The should have known better, so they will have the most to answer. Again, I have expounded all of these at great length on my web site. Do a search on these scriptures at
http://www.greaterthings.com/search.html

I briefly outline the parallel in column format at
http://www.greaterthings.com/Essays/666mark.htm

Just as the scriptures say of the Jews at the time of Christ, "there was none other nation so wicked," so do the coded prophecies speak of the Mormons in the role they will play in building up Satan's kingdom when they should have established the kingdom of God. And index of documents that elaborate on this point from the scriptures may be found at
http://www.greaterthings.com/Parallels/Commentary

and

www.greaterthings.com/Word-Number/666/LDS666.htm

In doing this current report on how J.J. so significantly misses the point on the prophecies about the beast in saying that they were fulfilled in their height with Hitler, and that we have seen the worst and can expect to sail into the coming New Age in relative comfort, I looked up the following phrases in J.J.'s archives.

Here I list the word I looked up in the search feature at
http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives.html 

followed by the number of times that phrase comes up in the 760 plus posts. After that, following "SA," I list how many times the phrase appears by searching at
http://www.greaterthings.com/search.html 

"trilateral" = 0
SA = 3

"CFR" = 0
SA = 1

"Council on Foreign Relations" = 0
SA = 5

"Conspiracy" = 8
SA = 55

"Secret Combination*" = 0
SA = 80

"Rockefeller" = 0
SA = 4

"global government" = 0
SA = 6

"world dictatorship" = 2

http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives/JJ664.html 
dismissing fears that UN leads to world dictatorship
and
http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives/JJ666.html 
countering Blayne's assertion that UN is part of drive for world dictatorship

SA = 6

"world tyranny" = 0
SA = 2

In doing this search, I came upon the recent statement by J.J.,

"Herein lies the great deception for all people on the Earth, no matter what their ideology, no matter what their status, free or slave, no matter what their wealth, are still people - just like you and I. They have loves and hates, and fears and hopes, and none of them, get this: NONE OF THEM want to see the human race destroyed by nuclear weapons, and NONE OF THEM want to see their sons and daughters fight a senseless war."
http://www.dlc.fi/~samu3/JJArchives/JJ604.html

I'm sorry, J.J., but there is such a thing as a wicked person who plays into the hands of Satan, whose intent is to destroy.

It takes may people and many hours to build a house, but it takes but one match to burn it down if the people are unaware and unprepared for such.

Let me end this post by quoting from my favorite scripture on the subject.

Ether 8:
18 And it came to pass that they formed a secret combination, even as they of old; which combination is most abominable and wicked above all, in the sight of God;19 For the Lord worketh not in secret combinations, neither doth he will that man should shed blood, but in all things hath forbidden it, from the beginning of man.
20 And now I, Moroni, do not write the manner of their oaths and combinations, for it hath been made known unto me that they are had among all people, and they are had among the Lamanites.
21 And they have caused the destruction of this people of whom I am now speaking, and also the destruction of the people of Nephi.
22 And whatsoever nation shall uphold such secret combinations, to get power and gain, until they shall spread over the nation, behold, they shall be destroyed; for the Lord will not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him from the ground for vengeance upon them and yet he avenge them not.
23 Wherefore, O ye Gentiles, it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you, which are built up to get power and gain--and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be.
24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up.
25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning.
26 Wherefore, I, Moroni, am commanded to write these things that evil may be done away, and that the time may come that Satan may have no power upon the hearts of the children of men, but that they may be persuaded to do good continually, that they may come unto the fountain of all righteousness and be saved.

The focal point (spotlight) of the chiasm of this chapter (where abc,cba reverses) is the statement, "and the work, yea, even the work of destruction come upon you, yea, even the sword of the justice of the Eternal God shall fall upon you, to your overthrow and destruction if ye shall suffer these things to be."

That is the same language as is used in III Nephi 20 about the treading down of the Gentiles who become as salt that has lost its savor.

No, J.J. we have not seen the worst that Satan has to dish out. Not even close.

May we be vigilant that we be not deceived and carried captive into hell -- in this case a very tangible, physical hell that duplicate the terrors of Hitler with the increased capabilities of torture provided by modern advances.

Sincerely,

Sterling D. Allan

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	Post 762: Turning Hearts This post was replied to by Sterling on 2/15/00.
	Post 761: On Democracy J.J. Argues for the validity of Democracy from the words of Thomas Jefferson.  It should be noted that this post was the subject of several subsequent rebuttals to show that Democracy is indeed not the preferable form of government but is a dangerous precursor which a tyrant can easily exploit. Rebuttal